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03-11-2004 Regular Meeting• • • MIAMI SHORES VILLAGE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD Thursday, March 11, 2004 Village Hall Summary of Meeting Revised Minutes The Planning and Zoning Board of the Village of Miami Shores held its regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday, March 11, 2004, at the Village Hall. The meeting was called to order at 6:30 .PM with the following members present: Members Present Tim Crutchfield Richard Fernandez Robert Abramitis Members Absent Cesar Sastre Members Late Donald Shockey (Arrived at 7:12 PM) Planning and Zoning Staff Present Al Berg, Director of Planning and Zoning Speakers and Others in Attendance Pablo Andrade, Recording Assistant SIGNS Signs for Identification Vs. Signs for Advertisement Mr. Abramitis proposed the board to come to a vote and to decide if the board is for or against the advertisement signs. He believes that by eliminating advertisement signs, 80% of the problem would go away and if the board moves towards the comprehensive sign plan it would resolve the other 20% of the problem. Mr. Crutchfield spoke that a lot of times it is necessary put other than the registered business names to identify a business. He is inclined to think that the best way to regulate the problem is focusing on the size of the .signs. In addition, it would be for the advantage • of businesses and the village to allow people to identify the nature and name of a business. Mr_ Fernandez stated that current code does not allow billboards, and signs should not be repeated. Also, current code should allow different professions and trades with their regulatory requirements. Mr. Crutchfield said that signs should be allowed depending on the angle of approach. If _ - e -sigma,, ems Consideration should be given to having a sign visible from different angles of approach. Also, logos are part of the identification and they should be within the square footage of the sign. Mr. Abramitis stated that the board should allow business to put up a logo 6 inches by 6 inches in a comer of a window. Mr. Crutchfield suggested that there should be some incentive in the code to encourage the landlord to get a master sign plan approval. Any signage, which fits within the building sign plan, does not have to come back to the board for approval if a master plan has already been approved. In addition, it is in the board's Village's interest to create uniform signage Mr. Abramitis explained that sign applicants would have to be required to come in with a detailed elevation that would indicate architecture features and proposed signage. The board can only approve signs allowed by the code_ All signs have the potential to work when properly monitored by the board. Finally, he would like to get to a board agreement on signs that do not require approval fromthe board, as well as, allowing them in B1 and B2 districts. Mr. Berg showed to the board samples of sign codes from Mlami-Dade County and city of Coral Gables. He also explained that not all cities allow home occupation, and retail is not permitted in residential areas. Mr_ Crutchfield suggested treating home occupation signs similar to the big buildings. Mr. Fernandez would like to involve city attorney with the discussions of signs. He would like to schedule that for the next regular meeting. Mr. Shockey expressed opposition for neon "open" signs because they are too intense. Mr. Crutchfield suggested moving the regular meetings for 7:00 PM, and Mr. Fernandez proposed meeting time to begin at 6:45 PM. All members of the board agreed to start regular meetings at 6:45 PM. ADJO URNEMNT There being no further regular business before the board, the meeting was adjourned at 7:55 PM. Pablo Andrade Mr_ Richard Fernandez, Chairman Recording Assistant Planning and Zoning Board • •