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12-11-2003 Workshop Meeting• MIAMI SHORES VILLAGE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WORKSHOP MEETING DECEMBER 11, 2003 The workshop meeting was called to order by Chairman Fernandez at 6:45 P. M.. A roll call showed the following persons present: ROLL CALL: Richard Fernandez, Chairman W. Robert Abramitis Timothy Crutchfield - Absent Caesar Sastre Donald Shockey — joined meeting at 7:20 P. M. STAFF PRESENT: Al Berg, Planning and Zoning Director • The Board decided to look at the sign ordinance and asked Mr. Berg to advise them as to what was working well with the sign ordinance and what wasn't. Mr. Berg gave a brief introduction of the types of signs allowed and the different zoning classifications in the Village. Specifics of the B-1 and the B-2 Districts were noted. Mr. Berg indicated that these two districts were extremely generous as far as the square footage requirements were concerned. There was no provision to limit window signs even though we have been including them as wall signs. Chairman Fernandez raised reservations about the "harmony" part of the ordinance and that he was uncomfortable with subjectivity associated with such a broad phrase. He indicated that there should be some ratio of sign to wall space. We need to be sensitive to national logos, but consistent in direction. Lighting and neon also should be defined. The code should distinguish between signs and advertising. A unified plan for each business and building should be submitted. There should be sufficient law to provide guidelines but there should also be enough room to allow discretion by the • Board. • Mr. Sastre stated that he agrees with the uniformity concept, but you must look at the style of building when deciding what will go with it, realizing, that some designs are not going to work. Exterior lighting should also be a factor to consider whenever approving signs. Mr. Abramitis expressed concern for company logos and that if we allow one type of logo, we must consider them all. Lack of uniformity was the biggest issues for signs. In the B-1 District, we should only be concerned with neighborhood advertising. It would be better if a property owner submitted an overall plan for his building with a scheme the size, location, and color of all signs. The Planning Board could approve the scheme and then the applicant wouldn't have to ask for their approval each time a tenant changed, as long as the sign matched what was approved before by the Board. Each building would have its' own look and sign scheme. With regard to real estate signs, he was satisfied with the current size. Mr. Shockey felt that consistency is important. He felt that simplicity of the code was very important. Size and dimension of the sign should also be considered. He felt that logos were okay as long as they were limited in size. Security issues should also be considered when window signs are discussed. A limited amount of coverage is necessary. There being no further business before the Bo'`e= et g djourned at 8:00 P. M.. • airman, anni � : and Zoning Board