03-28-1991 Regular MeetingMIAMI SHORES VILLAGE
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING
March 28, 1991
A regular meeting of the Miami Shores Village Planning & Zoning Board was
held on March 28, 1991. The meeting was called to order at 7:40 P.M. by
Chairman, Mr. Fernandez, with the following members present:
Richard M. Fernandez, Chairman
Terrell F. Chambers, Jr.
Les Forney
Thomas Laubenthal
Larry T. McClure
Also present: Frank LuBien, Director of Building & Zoning
1. MINUTES - February 28, 1991
Correction was called for on Pg 2, paragraph 2. Mr. Chambers excused him-
self from discussion, and left the room.
Following correction, the minutes of the meeting of February 28, 1991 were
approved by a motion made by Mr. McClure, seconded by Mr. Laubenthal and
passed unanimously.
A motion was made by Mr. McClure, seconded by Mr. Laubenthal and passed
unanimously to add to the agenda 7. Discussion - Garage Enclosure, Leonard
Watson, 165 N. W. 99th St.
A motion was made by Mr, Laubenthal, seconded by Mr. McClure and passed by
unanimous vote, to add 8. to the agenda, Discussion -- Future Zoning Downtown
Miami Shores.
2. DISCUSSION <- ROOFING MATERIAL
SOUTH FLORIDA ROOFING & SHEET METAL ASSN
GREG PIERCE
Mr. Fernandez introduced discussion. by stating Greg Pierce was invited so
that Members might receive some knowledgeable, unbiased information on
roofing materials. The intention is to undertake. -a comprehensive review
of building materials in Miami Shores beginning with the roofing materials.
Mr. Greg Pierce brought some people with him to address the issue. The
biggest issue he sees in talking with Mr. LuBien and others, is the flat
deck roof. GThe Miami Shores policy of tile on the sloped section is good).
Miami Shores presently requires gravel on the flat deck, but there are many
materials on the market which may be very successful and less expensive.
Other options are needed. The main material he wished to address is the
Modified Bitumen. He gave Members literature and samples of same and de-
scribed the process of application, and use. Another system is the fiber-
glas cap sheet. Mr. Fernandez summarized the three roofs suitable for the
flat deck application is the tar and gravel, the modified bitumen and the
fiberglas cap sheet. Mr. Fernandez requested comparisons and relative costs
of these items.
Mr. Pierce introduced.Mr. Dario L. Miranda of GAF Building Materials Corp.
who explained the advantages and disadvantages of each. Mr, Miranda further
described the longevity of these applications and applicable warranty.
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Mr. Pierce noted that Miami Shores seems very interested in aesthetics,
which is good, but many new roofing products are available. It would be
easier for Members to look at the South Florida Building Code, and exclude
what is not wanted.
Discussed at length was the fiberglas cap sheet, fire rating in certain
applications, and bonding.
Greg Pierce addressed commercial applications. He expressed concern about
water sitting and advised Members what to look out for. Also Mr. Pierce
described the method of obtaining product approval for a new item.
Paul Hayes of Paul T. Hayes Roofing explained systems available for the
flat patio/garage and method of application he uses. In response to query,
he noted there is no substitute for concrete barrel tile or flat tile.
Real tile is an expensive system. Poor mechanics and lack of supervision
are culprits.
Mr. Pierce indicated the consumer must be educated. There are many problems
with tile today, especially when not properly installed. He further talked
about the nail on system when not properly done.
Mr. LuBien, in response to query noted the standing metal seam is prohibited.
There was much discussion and give and take on material and application.
Mark Zehnal, Scott Roofing, talked about questions asked by his customers and
the need to get away from gravel roofs. He taked about the single ply appli-
cation which must be inspected by the manufacturer and warranty.
Mr. Wayne Marshall of the Bob Hilson & Co. Inc. noted it is not an easy
matter to inspect roof any more. He explained briefly what might be needed,
and looked for in inspecting. Further, Mr. Marshall suggested inspectors be
sent to school periodically.
Mr. Dario Miranda suggested each Member fill out the card he received, so as
to be placed on GAF regular msiling list.
Mr. Fernandez thanked all for coming, he indicated the discussion was most
informative.
A ten minute break was taken at this time. The meeting reconvened at 9:05 P.M.
Mr. Fernandez made a request that Scott Davis make five copies of the tape,
Discussion - Roofing Material,Ifor each Member of the Planning and Zoning Board
to review, also that this same item be placed on the next agenda. Mr. McClure
also requested a copy of the South Florida Building Code on Roofing be made avail-
able to each. Member. Mr. LuBien will comply with this request.
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3. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR FLAT ROOF ADDITION
PARCHEJO FELICITAS
173 N. E. 108th ST
Mr. Felicitas nor a representative was present at the meeting.
Mr. Laubenthal made a motion to move this request to the last item on the
agenda, the motion was seconded by Mr. McClure, and passed unanimously.
4. REQUEST FDRAPPROVAL OF DISH ANTENNA
BARNETT BANK
9190 BISCAYNE BLVD.
Mr. LuBien introduced the request stating that the property fronts on
Biscayne Blvd, and his problems with the 6' chain link fence, the barbed
wire on top, the height of the antenna, and the proper setback not listed,
also the code states no transmitting allowed.
Mr. Michael Smith, Meaner Electric Co, Jacksonville, Fl., the installer for
Barnett Bank, stated he does not understand the need for the barbed wire.
He has not visited the site, nor is he familiar with the location of the
antenna. It is needed for telephone and computer lines. Adjustments can be
made, he further stated.
Mr. McClure moved to deny the request, as submitted, seconded by Mr. Laubenthal,
for discussion.
Mr. Fernandez read from the dish antenna code, the restrictions and the re-
quirements.
Discussion took place regarding setbacks, screening, placement of the antenna,
the fence, uplink and the need for a variance. Following this discussion the
motion to deny carried unanimously.
5. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF VARIANCE FOR SALE OF BEER
CHUCK ORLANDI - CHEVRON
9601 N. E. 2nd AVE.
Mr. Orlandi is requesting a variance to Sec 4--3 of Miami Shores Village Code.
Mr. LuBien noted that Mr. Orlandi requested and received original approval
for a Mini Mart at the service station on April 26, 1984, with the stipula-
tion that no alcoholic beverages be sold.
Members received in their packet a copy of the letter from Mr. Orlandi,
requesting this Hearing and a copy of the Sec 4.3 of Miami Shores Village
code, which denies the sale of beer at any gasoline filling station.
Mr. Orlandi stated, he is requesting the variance, because of the many
requests from his customers for the sale of beer. In response to Mr. McClure,
Mr. Orlandi stated that the Department of Alcohol & Tobacco (State Agency)
told him that if he sold beer only (and not wine) that no approval is needed
from Miami Shores Village. This is mis-information. Also in response to query,
Mr.,Orlandi stated that the decision not to sell beer on his premises, does not
present an economic hardship to him.
Members recalled, at the time of Chevron request to remodel, it was again made
clear that Members would hold true & fast to the decision that beer & wine not
be sold, and this was agreed upon.
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11r. Laubenthal made a motion to deny the request for a variance, as
submitted. The prohibition of the sale of beer & wine was discussed as
part of the approval of the Mini Mart in 1984. The motion was seconded
by Mr. Chambers. Following explanation that the Board has no latitude
but to deny the request, the motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Fernandez explained to Mr. Orlandi the right of appeal to Council.
6. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR ADDITION
R. MANNAPPERUMA
210 N. E. 107th STREET
The request was introduced by Mr. LuBien who gave Members a larger set of
plans for review. He explained the plans as well as he could, considering
the plans were vague on some items and -incomplete in detail. Mr. LuBien
replied to query, regarding the septic tank size increase.
Mr. Mannapperuma explained his in-laws are coming to live with him from
Cuba, and this is one reason for needing the additional space. Also, he
showed Members pictures of his homelas is, and noted he wants to beautify
it. He further stated, adjustments can be made and the outside staircase .
can be removed.The possibility of rental was explained to Mr. Mannapperuma.
There was much discussion regarding this addition.
Mr. Fernandez made a list of the nine requiremnets on a new set of plans.
Mr. LuBien gave Mr. Mannaperuma a copy of the list which follows: 1. site
plan to be fully detailed, 2. doorways, 3. outside staircase, 4. interior
configueration, with greater detail, 5. pitch of roof, 6. roofing materials,
-7. all elevations, 8. parking elements, and 9. survey of the property.
Mr. Mannapperuma withdrew his request and will return with a complete set
of drawings.
7. DISCUSSION - GARAGE ENCLOSURE
LEONARD WATSON
165 N. W. 99th STREET
Mr. LuBien introduced the case and explained details of the garage enclosure.
In reply to query, he noted he has no problem or difficulty. •This is a done
job, and mechanism of Code Violation. The work was done by the owner, and
Mr. LuBien has no problem with the quality of construction.
Mr. Watson was not present.
Mr. Forney moved to approve the request, seconded by Mr. Laubenthal.
Mr. McClure felt the request should be tabled so that he might go by and
take a look at the enclosure. Mr. Fernandez stated he had driven by the
property and saw no problem.
The vote was taken and the motion carried 4/1. Mr. McClure voted no.
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8. DISCUSSION — FUTURE ZONING CONSIDERATIONS DOWNTOWN MIAMI SHORES
Mr. Fernandez stated he had in his possession a written report and a
survey submitted by Swarthout Co. The Council voted not to pursue the
sewer issue, at this time, the issue was then turned over to Planning &
Zoning for zoning relief for the downtown area. Planning & Zoning has
already done an expansion of use in the Bl - B2 area. Mr. Fernandez
requested that each Member take a copy of materials submitted (report,
survey, and memo from the Village Manager), and review this material for
greater organizational activity.
Mr. Fernandez also requested Members take a look at the Matrix developed
by the Business Development Committee. He further stated, Planning &
Zoning is on schedule according, and has delivered on a timely basis, both
in projection and completion of tasks. Planning & Zoning Board minutes
should be studied. Mr. Fernandez requests as broad a specturm as can be
mustered for future zoning considerations and plan the future of Miami
Shores.
Mr. McClure wondered and asked the question, why the report was given to
Council instead of back to the Planning & Zoning Board as previously
anticipated.
Mr. LuBien noted that the Village Manager will draft a memo to him with
instructions to the Planning & Zoning Board. Mr. LuBien will request that
she give Mr. Fernandez a call before the memo is issued.
Mr. Steve Pitkin agreed to be available to report to the Planning & Zoning
Board should this be necessary, following review by the Members.
3. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR FLAT ROOF ADDITION
PACHEJO FELICITAS
173 N. E. 108th ST
The applicant was not present, but Mr. Fernandez requested the Board move
forward on the request.
Mr. LuBien informed Members the present building is 1, 759 sq ft, and the
proposed addition is 348 sq ft. 15% of the pitched roof area may be flat.
(.Measured at ground level). At ground level, addition is 48 sq ft oversize.
At roof level, if credit is given for the existing overhang, area becomes
273 sq ft. The roof addition is underneath the existing overhang which is
tile. Mr...LuBien brought it before the Board because of the way the code
reads.
Following further discussion, Mr. Laubenthal moved to approve the request,
seconded by Mr.. Chambers, the motion carried unanimously.
9. Mr. Laubenthal reported he had received a memo from Gail Macdonald regard-
ing the Landscape Ordinance at the Village Attorney's office. Mr. Fenn has
been very busy on other matters. Also since he has had no previous experience
on landscape issues, Mr. Laubenthal will give him assistance in writing the
Ordinance,
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Mr. Forney indicated that in driving around the Village he has observed
more and more people not maintaining their lawns, and would like to see
this matter addressed and corrected.
The meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.N.
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