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02-22-1990 Regular MeetingMIAMI SHORES VILLAGE February 22, 1990. A regular meeting of the. Miami. Shores: Village Planning & Zoning Board was held on February 22, 1990 at Mlamt Shores 'Village Hall. The 'meeting was called to• order at 7;-3.0: P.11, hy.. Chairman Fernandez, with the following members present: RicFard M. Fernandez, Chairman Terrell F. Chambers, Jr. Thomas Laubenthal Larry T. McClure Absent; Robert E. Cook Also present: Fran1c LuBien, Director of Building & Zoning 1. MINUTES - February 8, 1990 The minutes of the meeting of February 8, 1990. were accepted, as mailed, by a motion made by 1. Laubenthal, seconded. by 1 r,, Chambers and passed unanimously. 2. REQUEST FOR 'APPROVAL OF ROOF PAINT ANTONIO PERDO.MO 67 N. W. 92nd ST. Mr. LuBien introduced the case, Mr. Perdomo is requesting to paint his roof ted in an effort to upgrade the property. The roof had been painted the same color previously (about 10-15 years), It has become degenerated and sloppy looking. He noted the case is similar to Tony Roma wanting to paint their roof green and being denied. Mr, Perdomo's son was present, but made comment only that, he is requesting approval to paint his roof. The color sample was reviewed by Members. Members felt there is no great problem with painting the red on red roof, though: the code does state color must be impregnated throughout the tile, This was discussed at length, fit was determined that Mr. LuBien, the Director is asking for opinion from the Board. No variance is requested. Mr. McClure movedthat the request, as submitted, be approved, seconded by Mr. Laubenthal, Mr. Fernandez explained that this is a red impregnated tile and the applicant is requesting that it be painted a similar color. The vote was called, and motionpassed unanimously. 3. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF GARAGE ENCLOSURE PLANS LLOYD CABALLERO 10 N. E. 103rd STREET Mr. LuBien noted, his problem is the set of plans which has the imprint of a registered architect. There is a floor plan, site plan in Members' packet, but we have -no elevation. Mr. Caballero explained there was a fire at this residence and the garage door was destroyed. Ie is requesting enclosureto make another bedroom. He has no architectural drawings nor elevation because the :cost would be ex- orbitant. PLANNING & ZONING BOARD -2- 2/22/90 It was explained. to Mr. Caballero by Members that they have a mandate to evaluate. the criteria, as presented. These plans before the Board are only half complete. In order to obtain approval from -the Board, architect plans w:th.elevations-must be submitted, Again'Mr. Cabe.11ero protested the cost of such. a request, and stated he is doing. nothing more than enclosing the opening to make a room, There are. no additional changes. The mandate from Council was again explained to -Mr, Caballero. ing Mr. LuBien is doing as he should by bring, the request to Planning & Zoning for approval, but //embers cannot consider an incomplete set of plans. Certain criteria must be considered, which. is not here, there is not relation- ship of the plans to the existing structure. Discussion followed. Mr. Fernandez advised Mr. Caballero to have his architect call Mr.. LuBien. Mr. Caballero withdrew his request and was advised.it can be on the next meeting agenda provided the plans are in no later than next Tuesday, (2/27/90). 3A REVIEW OF SCREEN MATERIAL FOR DISH ANTENNA ARCHDIOCESE OF MAIMI (CLIMATROL) 9900 N. E. 2nd AVE. Mr. LuBien noted, he brings this before the Board for approval of material for screen because it is different from what the Members previously approved. Mr. Franklin Grau represented the Archdiocese. He showed Members a sample of the aluminum material to be used, as opposed to the previously approved galvanized metal tubing, also stating structural members will be rectangular and square. It is anticipated this is more stable, and will last longer. It is more expensive, and there have been wind loading calculations. Mr. Grau responded to questions asked by Mr. Laubenthal., Maintenance questions were also answered. Following further discussion, Mr. Laubenthal moved that the application as submitted, which is for approval of revised material, be approved, seconded by Mr. Chambers, and passed unanimously. A ten (10) minute recess was taken at 8:10 P.M., 4. DISCUSSION - ORGANIZATION OF SEWER PLANNING Mr. Fernandez noted that Mr. Cook is absent, because of car problems in Tampa. He had done a considerable amount of work in preparing for this meeting. Mr. Fernandez gave an overview of some information he obtained in conversa- tion with Mr. Cook, a project planner. Mr. Fernandez then opened discussion on the organization of sewer planning. He asked many questions which must be answered. The issue of downtown sewers is much too narrow to answer all the questions. What is Miami Shores? The history of its' being formed, the reason, the character? How do we envision it in the next 40 years? Is revision necessary? Must we be visionary and pro -acture? A concept must be developed. Documented conclusions must be established. We must deal with a broader base in looking at the potential for sewers, not only on N.E. 2nd Ave but for residential and for Biscayne PLANNING & ZONING BOARD -3- 2/22/90 Blvd., as well. What is the big picture? This must be narrowed down. What does it take to accomplish the goal? We must look at the demographics of Miami Shores. Density, ethnic character, age, etc., as well as relationship to the surrounding coimun±ties,typesof businesses we want established. Economics - macro -economic and the micro -economic approach must be looked at. How will this affect the tax base? Mr.. Fernandez interjected a most recent experience of his in Atlanta, to point up occupancy, economics, and the impact. He then addressed the issue of business trend for the Village, and what might be anticipated. Mr. Fernandez then asked each Member to comment, and to limit comments to ten minutes. Mr. Chambers commented,. if we are to install sewer lines they should be of a large, capacity. This in anticipation that the State may in the future -mandate that there be sewer lines where possible. He sees drainage with septic tanks as adequate. In looking at the costs, Mr. Chambers feels this should be prorated so that business or building owners and the immediate residential area is not overburdened. Also a four story building will upset too many people. Mr. Laubenthal noted he does not believe it remotely possible that the State will mandate sewers for atleast fifty years, because of the size of the undertaking. Costs - the :more users on line the better to amoritize the cost, this being an economic motivator. Does present growth or growth at a future level warrant sewers? He would like to see us exhaust our potential to refurbish existing facilities. In looking at a sewer line down N. E. 2nd Ave we must look at the residential.. Tax base, pattern of growth must be addressed, along with the appropriateness of higher density. In addressing, what is Miami Shores, Mr. Laubenthal wondered should new guidelines be con- structed? An inventory of footprint and plan of downtown N. E. 2nd Ave as taken from Redi maps must be taken. (Building configuration., percolation space, density, runoff, expansion, and location of septic tanks, etc,), In working with the Downtown Development. Committee, they have been able to put together some semblance of the text which states their concept, but they have never had the opportunity to have a plan or data base to draw from. Lastly, on the issue of sewers, the business district on Biscayne Blvd must be looked at. Other areas may be more appropriate for change, a great deal of planning has to be considered. Mr. McClure commended Nr. Fernandez for the overview of some of the items which will need consideration. Everyone is thinking downtown Miami Shores needs to be revitalized, which they feel cannot be done without sewers or some sort of rezoning. What kind of rezoning can be done with septic tanks? We've never looked at this item. Certain factual information is necessary before any consideration is made, Mr. McClure has no opinion on whether we should or should not have sewers, but the question mustbe looked at in depth., as much as possible, in an organized manner. Further Mr. McClure noted that the 'Village Council has asked. the Planning & Zoning Board to look at N. E. 2nd Ave, whichis out priority, though other areas of Miami Shores will be involved. Lastly, Mr. McClure suggested that every Member read on Page 1563, Sec 101 of the li.ami Shores Village Code of Ordinances before the next Planning ,& Zoning Board :meeting. PLANNING & ZQNING BOARD -4- 2/22/90 Mr. LuBien explained for Members the Redi maps as mentioned by - Mr. Laubenthal, In speaking from his experience, sewers are not like septic tanks in that they cannot be installed without looking at an over- view -of the -whole system.. Sewers must -have a place to go. Is the capacity available to. -us?, Mr. LuBien addressed this issue extensively, noting sewage treatment plants have a capacity, reservation for capacity must be made, and •is the capacity available? Mr. Fernandez mentioned concurrency requirements as they relate to dual development. If a sewer system is installed, have concurrency laws been violated? Members further discussed the possibility of an expert or consultant coming in to give accurate testimony, It was noted that Swarthout Associates is not in this particular field. In response to query, Mr. Laubenthal stated, he sees at least 18 months of work in front of the Board on the sewer issue. There should be no deadline for future planning, and Members shouldn"t feel pressured to complete the task, but to do a qualified job. He requested the cooperation of all associated Boards, Staff, and the Village Council to work with Planning & Zoning in their efforts. Mr. Fernandez asked that the record reflect, that it is the opinion of the Board as a whole that this matter will take considerably more time than was anticipated by Council, The Village Council, he felt anticipated a quick response, however it is expected that eighteen months of fast track delibera- tion lies ahead. The matter will be pursued in a diligent fasion, various factors will be weighed. A logical process will take place to do the job requested. He again mentioned the tremendous resource the Board has in Mr. Cook, a project planner with extensive experience in the planning field. Extensive discussion ensued concerning the day and time for a Group Workshop. It was finally determined, the next regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning & Zoning Board will be held on the same day and date (Thursday, March 8thi, but at 6:30 P.M.. Regular business will be conducted in the Village Hall Chambers, and then the Members will move to the Conference room for the Group Workshop. Mr. Fernandez will notify Mr. Cook and clear all this with Mr. Fann, the Village Attorney. Mr. Fernandez noted that Barbara Witte had indicated to him some time ago that she will draft a fill in form for comments for feedback from the Planning & Zoning Board. She has now requested that written recommendations be given to her. She seems to be asking for guidelines, recommendations and consensue of Members for N. E. 2nd Ave. It was decided discussion with the Downtown Revitalization Board has been beneficial and that Barbara Witte be invited to the next meeting, so that the Board might proceed as before. There being no further business-, the meeting adjourned at 9115 P.M. �� 4-L h,LJ cr 4ary