08-25-1983 Regular MeetingMIAMI SHORES VILLAGE
PLANNING & ZONING BOARD MEETING
AUGUST 25, 1983
A regular meeting of the Miami Shores Planning and Zoning
Board was held on August 25, 1983, 730 p.m., at the Miami Shores
Village Hall, with the following Board members present:
Absent:
Also Present:
J. Robert Stobs, Chairman
Robert J. Rossi
Thomas J. Laubenthal
J.S. Palmer
Roberta Johnson
Frank LuBien, Building Director
1) MINUTES:
Minutes of the meeting of August 11, 1983 were approved as
written by motion made by Mr. Laubenthal, seconded by Mr.
Rossi and carried.
2) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS TO CONVERT CARPORT TO GARAGE
PAUL BATES, 117 N.E. 91 STREET
Mr. LuBien informed the Board that the existing carport is all
frame construction. It was originally built on the side of a
two-story structure. Subsequently, there was added a utility
room with .a flat roof section over to that utility room.
Presently, Mr. Bates proposes to enclose the carport which is
all frame, with frame construction, This requires a variance
to section 225 which requires masonry construction.
Mr. Paul Bates and Mr. James Smith, his architect attended the
meeting. Mr. Smith stated the grounds for the frame construction
is to save Mr. Bates the expense of having to rip off the existing
roof and completely redo the carport and roof. The proposed plan
calls for stucco over the wood frame, seal windows which open into
the carport and place an attractive wood door in the front.
Following review of the site plan and lengthy discussion the Board
felt that no preferential granting of variance should be applied
that cannot be applicable to anyone else. Our Ordinance is very
clear; this is not a masonry structure; it has a functional use
right now; it was grandfathered -in as a carport and as soon as
application is made for a change, compliance with the Ordinance
is required.
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Mr. Laubenthal moved for denial of request as submitted to
convert carport to garage, based on inability to conform to
our Ordinance as written. Motion was seconded by Mr. Rossi
and carried unanimously.
Mr. Bates was informed of his right to appeal this decision
to Council.
3) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR ADDITIONS & ALTERATIONS
JOHN MILITANA, 8900 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD
Mr. LuBien advised that the existing structure has a small
partial encroachment into required 25' setback and another
corner that extends out about four feet. The new construction
proposed complies with the setback line requirements and also
provides the necessary parking for the square footage being
added, plus the existing square footage,
Nr. John Nilitana advised he required larger office quarters.
Staying within the setback area, Mr. Militana proposes to
add a little over 500 sq. ft, to the front and approximately
1700 sq, ft. to the rear, This will allow him to maintain use
of the drive-in tellers and thus obtain the highest and best
use of the property. Mr. Militana noted this is a unique
piece of property as it does not meet the dimensions of any
other parcel in Miami Shores. It is triangular shaped. He
stated the additions and alterations do not harm or infringe
on any of the surrounding neighbors rights and the change in the
exterior appearance is in harmony.
In reply to a query by Mr, Stobs, Mr. Militana informed the Board
he is retaining ground water with an .8' soakage pit and existing
catch basin, noted on the site plan submitted, so there is sufficient
drainage system.
Mr. Sandu Z. Rapp, Architect, confirmed Mr. Militana's statement
that no fence was included in the plans.
The Board discussed provisions for peculiar and unusual conditions
surrounding properties, which this parcel certainly has, In 1974
the addition was placed which fell into the setback and this was
not addressed then.Nevertheless, it would require the Board to
allow for this addition to be placed and look at the site plan
for harmony with the neighborhood.
Following discussion, Mr, Rossi moved for approval of site plan
for additions and alterations, as all is consistent with our
standards. Deletion of the fence from plans is required part
of this motion. Motion was seconded by Mr. Laubenthal, and
carried unanimously.
Council action is required.
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4) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR CLASSROOM BUILDING
BARRY UNIVERSITY, 11300 N.E. 2 AVENUE
This item was before the Board on August llth and detailed
information relative to parking was requested. The three
concerns of the Board were 1) the amount of parking area
as existing, 2) effect of new proposed classroom building
on that parking and 3) whether Barry was going to expand
the western portion for unity of title.
Mr. Peter C. Beggs, Architect, representing Barry University
advised they have gone through a survey of existing campus
based on requirement the College should have one space per
classroom, and one space for every ten students - if audi-
toriums are involved, one-half of required space is outlined in
portions of the code. Mr. Beggs gave the following breakdown -
existing classrooms - 53; new classrooms in proposed building -
12; campus enrollment is 1,952; auditorium seats 994. The
general auditorium requirement is one parking space for 3 fixed
seats, requirement is therefore 1/2 that number, namely 166 seats,
giving requirement for existing campus and new classroom building
260 spaces.
Mr. Beggs noted that dealing with just the east portion of the
campus, forgetting the western portion where the athletic fields
are, there are 395 paved parking spaces existing in the area where
future classroom building will go; Barry created a space of 204
on existing campus; total in eastern portion alone of 599 spaces
are in excess of 339 spaces.
The Architect advised that up to date plans of future development
of Barry is basically to keep perimeter parking around the campus
and eliminate parking from the interior. To accomplish this, Barry
will be creating, in the future, two parking lots which will add
somewhere around 520/530 spaces.
The Board advised Mr. Beggs he did the Village as well as Barry
a service compiling the details relative to parking. Mr. Stobs
requested that Mr. LuBien check the computations and sq.footage
figures on the plans submitted. Mr. LuBien advised that the
formulas used by Barry were supplied by him.
Following discussion, Mr. Rossi moved we approve site plan for
classroom building as presented to the Board provided Mr, LuBien
agrees with computations submitted. Motion was seconded by Mr.
Laubenthal and carried unanimously.
Mr. Laubenthal expressed appreciation of the Board for the extensive
work prepared by Mr. Beggs to qualify points that were troubling us
and stated in the long run, the survey will benefit Barry,
No Council action is required,
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5) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR FLAT ROOF ADDITION
HARRY METZ, 1200 N.E. 95 STREET
Mr. LuBien advised the problem existing in this case is Mr.
Metz started construction of a flat roof addition to his
residence, and as evidenced on the site plan, this is a
non -conforming structure. The garage is only about 22
feet off the rear property line and that pretty well
eliminates any additional work being done to this structure.
Aside from that, Mr. Metz has an existing flat roof which
is 357 sq.ft., the section under construction is 230 sq.ft.,
totalling 587 sq.ft. Allowable footage is 371 sq. ft., leaving
overage of 216 sq. ft.
The Building Director advised there are two problems existing
here - the non -conforming structure and it is 2/3 more than
allowable.
Mr. Harry Metz advised what he had hoped to accomplish was to
build a garden room or green house to open up the view.
Following discussion, Mr. Laubenthal moved that the proposal
for flat roof addition be denied as the plan does not conform
with allowable square footage for flat roofs, seconded by
Mr. Rossi, and carried unanimously.
Mr. Metz did not wish to appeal the Board's decision.
6) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR ADDITIONS & ALTERATIONS
JOSE MORALES, 1080 N.E. 107 STREET
Mr. LuBien advised the only problem he saw with the proposed
additions and alterations is that the upper section of the
structure that goes beyond the existing tie beam is of wood
frame.
Following discussion of the plan as submitted, and recommendations
by the Planning Board re masonry requirements, Mr. Morales with-
drew his request. He will contact Mr. LuBien for assistance in
solving his problem.
No action was required by the Board.
7) OFF-STREET PARKING & ACCESSORY BUILDINGS
Lengthy discussion was held with reference to offstreet alternate
parking being in the same category as accessory buildings.
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Mr. Rossi felt that more people have a need to enclose their
carports and garages, which results in carte blanche to park
cars in front of residences. He considers parking in front
of residences as unsightly.
Mr. Stobs stated he was not looking at encouraging enclosing
garages. It is strictly the business that you are required to
have a completely enclosed garage, attached to dwelling, complying
with all regulations applying, but whether it be enclosed, partially
enclosed or unenclosed - it must be located in conformity with
regulations applying to accessory buildings - which means if you
don't have them in front, if you don't have them anywhere else -
it applies to accessory buildings, which is, rear yard only,
not less than 15' from main building, not less than 10' from
a plot line, etc.,etc, Mr. Stobs questioned if we were to
look at just a regular setback, without accessory building,
what would that do? In other words, if we '.took that requirement
away from accessory buildings, what would we than allow to take
place? He noted the accessory also has to do with how much
space is between that and the house itself. Does that really
apply to a vehicle being parked?
Mr. Rossi noted that many houses have no alleys or no portion
beyond the front building line.
Mr. Laubenthal stated that by design in many cases having a garage
integral with a residential structure is a convenience of being
able to move to and from the residence without going through the
rain and that goal is defeated when you are making an accessory
and you have that exposed gap to close, particularly when the
accessory building is to be off a distance.
Mr. LuBien felt there was a contradiction in that if someone wants
to put up a fabric covered carport, the stipulation is that it shall
be between the prolongations of side property line, etc. If it is
attached to the building, then it has to be 15' away from the rear
property line. There is nothing in there that says it cannot be
fastened. A. carport can be attached or detached, If they detach
that awning structure, then it has to be 15' away from the main
building, The fact that alternate parking area is characterized
with accessory buildings, they have to have this 15' separation.
Mr. LuBien noted if you just require off-street parking, eliminating
that 15' separation because you do not require it for a carport
that is attached, I see no reason to require it for a parking space,
The Board felt that taking it out of accessory building may solve
part of the problem and you could then refer to another category,
perhaps assign to 25 - 10 & 5 for rear yard. The problem is the
15' requirement,
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Mr. Stobs felt this suggestion takes care of the rear yard
problem however, he reiterated Mr. Rossi's statement that
many homes do not have rear yard or side yard space. There
was also the question, if a car can be parked anywhere you
want in the rear, what is it going to be parked on. Mr. LuBien
stated there is no reference in the parking ordinance to this.
It defines a space as being 9 x 20, but they don't define what
the material is. It doesn't say anything about having to have
asphalt, gravel or anything.
The question of circular drives was discussed. Requests have
been made for circular drives in new homes as well as existing
homes. The people who have circular drives, park their cars
on the circular drives, they do not use their carports or
garages. Most circular drives are in the 25' setback.
Mr. LuBien noted, in any case, we are addressing ourselves
tonight to off-street parking, and circular drives do not
count as off-street parking. The only place you are allowed
off-street parking is in,the rear yard.
Mr. LuBien also noted we have existing driveways in the
setback; there are many houses here on 50 ft. lots that
a garage on the back line - as a matter of fact, there
many on 91st Street. We are not concerned with what is
Mr. LuBien stated we are concerned with what people are
today.
Following discussion, Mr. Stobs requested that a Public
be set up for Thursday, October 13, 1983.
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Mr. Stobs wished it to be noted of record he inquired of the Building
Director where the Chickee Hut Amendment was.
The meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Secretary