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PLANNING ASVD ZONING ROAA,D MEETING
JUIY 28, 1983
A regular meeting of the Niami Shores Planning and
Zoning Board was held on July 28,0 1983, 7;30 p.m., at the
Miami Shores Village Hall, with the following Board members
present;
J, Robert Stows, Chairman
Roberta Johnson
Robert J, Rossi
Thomas J. Laubenthal
Absent: J,S, Palmer
Also Present: Frank LuBien, Building Director
1) MINUTES;
Minutes of the meeting of July 14, 1983 were approved as
written by motion made by Mr. Rossi, seconded by Mr,
Laubenthal, and carried unanimously.
The Building Director reported to the Board on two items from
the last agenda. Mr. G. Samininos, of 1214 N.E, 92 Street,
who completed construction of trellis without plans or permit,
has submitted to the building department a set of plans with
registered architects seal, and permit was. issued, as trellis
complies with required specifications, Sec. 225(g),
The second item is the request of W. R, Terry Cuson, 1183 N.E.
91st Terrace with reference to request to enclose carport, This
went before the Council and was referred back to the Planning &
Zoning Board. Mr. LuBien advised he spoke with Mr, Cuson, who
is preparing some documents and requested that he be placed on
the agenda at a future date. This will be coming back before
the Board on the basis of being reviewed as a hardship. The
Building Director stated it was sent back to the Planning
Board because it was unclear that his original application was
for a variance to the off-street parking requirement and he also
needed a variance to the non -conforming structure. Mr. LuBien
felt if a variance was granted to the 10' required side setback
it would remove this from being a non -conforming structure.
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Mr. LuBien stated, looking down the road, they want to enclose
a carport now, they might want to add a pool or patio or put
up a utility shed, these things are normal in a family -grow
situation, Whereas, the way he is right now, being a non-
conforming structure, he can do none' of the above.
Discussion was held relative to the non -conforming structures
on that particular street and Mr. LuBien's statement if it
is non -conforming, you can't touch it.
2) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF FLAT ROOF ADDITION
PATRICIA MULL, 1343 N.E. 104 STREET
This request is for approval of proposed flat roof addition,
which exceeds the allowable area by 194 sq. ft. A variance to section
225 (e)(2) is required. Set of plans were reviewed by the Board and
calculations submitted reveal the flat roof addition is approximately
71/2% over the allowable amount of square footage that is approved.
She has proposed 589 sq. ft., allowable is 395 sq. ft. based on
the fact that the area of the existing building is 2,631 sq. ft,
based at the ground level of the building.
Mrs. Mull advised that the problem is that the house is in the
shape of a U and she wanted to increase the living space by
enclosing the U but she discovered that one wall of the U
was longer than the other one. Mrs. Mull feels the only way
to pull it together esthetically is to angle it back in but
then the problem is it goes over the 15%. Mrs. Mull feels
the addition would not look good with a pitched roof.
Following discussion with reference to reasonable use of the
property and agreeing that the use is functional as a single
family residence, the Board recommended reducing the family
room to 24* x 17'. Mrs. Mull would like the addition as
proposed to the Board; she feels it is an unusual condition;
she needs to tie the two walls together.
Mr, Rossi stated the Code is very specific; it allows a maximum
of 15% of the ground area, or a maximum of 300 sq. ft. Mr. Rossi
felt it would not be a problem to limit it to 15% of the total
sq,footage of the pitched roof section. It will reduce the size
of the room to 24 x 17 approximately, a fairly large size family
room.
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Following further discussion, Mr. Laubenthal moved that the
request as it has been submitted to the Board be denied on
the basis that it does not conform to our Code, however, as
it will go to Council, Mr. Laubenthal would like to add that
the architectural solution by design is esthetically acceptable
and it is a logical layout relative to the apparent desire for
an expanded living space. The motion was seconded by Mrs.
Johnson. Upon vote the motion to deny was carried unanimously.
Mrs. Mull was advised of her right to appeal to Council.
3) REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR GARAGE ENCLOSURE
BILL SANDERS, 250 N.E. 105 STREET
This is a request for enclosure for garage where the building
is on a 50'lot. There is some space in the back yard but due
to the 50' lot, Mr. Sanders house is elongated and it is difficult
to provide the alternate parking space,(off-street parking), in
the rear yard without encroaching in some respects on our re-
quirements, i.e., parking space shall be 10' from side property
line, 5' from rear property line and 15' from the main building.
The Chairman advised Mr. Sanders that the Board would address
the question of Off -Street Parking Regulations later on at
this meeting.
Following review of the plans submitted, Mr. Rossi recommended
Mr. Sanders table his request for a later date after the Board
fully discusses the problem of Off -Street Parking Regulations
and set a date for a Public Hearing.
Mr. Sanders did not wish to delay his request any longer and
requested the Board make a decision as he desperately.needed the space.
Following discussion, Mr. Rossi moved for denial of request for
garage enclosure because request does not furnish alternate off-
street parking space according to Code requirements. Motion
was seconded by Mr. Laubenthal and carried unanimously. Mr, Sanders
will appeal decision to Council.
4) CODE AMENDMENT
Mr. LuBien advised that Mr. Faun was not satisfied with his suggestion
relative to revision to incorporate Chickee Huts and similar structures
to existing Ordinance.
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The Chairman reported he spoke with Mr. Fann, and what
the Village Attorney prefers to do is provide coverage
of this under our Masonry Ordinance - where we get down
to 'the following exceptions' - add an item stipulating
it is specifically prohibited to have this structure.
Mr. Fann feels it is the structure we are talking about,.
not use - the use is for shade, whatever. The Board will
set up a Public Hearing based on the Village Attorney's
recommendations.
Following conclusion of the regular Agenda, Mr. Cutchens requested
permission to discuss the Planning & Zoning Board's meeting of
July 14, 1983 re decision for request for approval of change
of use. The Chairman allowed him five minutes to make a statement.
Mr. Ken Cutchens read from a prepared statement, from the Property
Owners of Miami Shores Village. He stated the Board was "wronger
for its approval of item 3, July 14, 1983, for change of use.
He read. -in the future we suggest that this Board, no Council
member, should approve land use change ora zoning. change without
a referendum, or some system set up, rather than the Planning and
Zoning Board.
Mr. Cutchens stated he spent two weeks on this and he has gotten
it put off the Agenda of the Council, He stated he has confirmation
it would be off the Agenda. He further stated the decision of the
Planning Board on July 14, 1983 would not hold up because it was
not Code. Mr. Cutchins advised a telegram would be sent on 7/29/83.
Off -Street Parking:
The Chairman inquired if the Board had given thought to the Off -Street
Parking situation.
Mr. Rossi replied that with growing families and the need for extra
living space, something has to be done to allow garages and open spaces
to be used for living area as long as they conform to building requirements.
The Board discussed such problems as streets that have no alleys, the
circular drive problem in set -back, the prevalance of parking in front
of residences in the Village, asphalt or concrete ribbons.
Mr, Rossi noted he spoke to Mr. Forney about off-street parking and Mr.
Forney advised that the Board be very careful about this - we don't
want to open up a door that allows people to park on the grass, or in
the front yard, etc. We do not want back-up parking in the Village.
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The Chairman advised his concern is that we address the set -backs
because that is something that needs to be maintained as strictly
as possible. He noted this is a real plus for Miami Shores and
he didn't know of any exceptions he could think of on set -backs,
Following discussion, the Board concurred a date should be set
for a Public Hearing on Off -Street Parking.
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m,
Secretary