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07-23-1990 Budget Workshop Meeting MIAMI SHORES BUDGET WORKSHOP MONDAY, JULY 23, 1990 The Budget Workshop of the Miami Shores Council was held on Monday, July 23, 1990, at 7:00 p.m. in Village Hall . The following members were present : Mayor Courtney Herb Spahn Spero Canton Stephen Loffredo Marty Stoflk Also Present : Gall Macdonald William Fann Mayor Courtney asked Ms. Macdonald to discuss the swimming pool Issue. Ms. Macdonald stated that there were three aspects to the pool Issue: Renovate vs New pool , Site selection and funding . She spoke about the reasons for her recommendation to move the pool to lot 107 at the Recreation Department . Ms. Macdonald withdrew her recommendation for moving the pool to lot 107. She said one of the options is to leave the pool at Its present location with the entrance at the South end. She also stated that she prefers to have a new pool built at $700,000 to $900,000 which will have less deep water which is better for the needs of Miami Shores residents. Mayor Courtney asked for a consensus of Council for the location of the pool . Mr . Canton stated the South end parking lot . Mr . Loffredo - opposed to lot 107. Ms. Stofik stated that she wants the Country Club to have a pool and the North end Is a consideration . She said she is in favor of building a new pool . Mr . Loffredo suggested using the North end for a large regional swimming facility and having a bond Issue for financing . Mayor Courtney stated that the pool should stay where it is. Mr . Spahn spoke about the accomplishments that have occurred this year . He also spoke about an Increase in revenue for next year , borrowing vs using reserve funds and salaries for employees. MOBILE CRIME WATCH Mr . Canton stated that he has no problem with the budget . Mr . Loffredo stated that the administration' s recommendation is In order and approves. Mr . Spahn agreed. Mayor Courtney stated that there is a consensus for approval of the Mobile Crime Watch budget . RECREATION Ms. Macdonald explained the background of the pool situation . Mr . Varney reported that he has Investigated 4 options. 1 . A spartan renovation of the existing facilities. $450,000. 2 . Improvements on the existing site with expansion of covered area. $550,000. 3 . Expansion to the South lot with a spray pool and more patio area. $650,000. 4. New pool , Including demolition costs. $900,000. Mr . George Seller , President of Seiler & Keller Associates, stated that there Is major structural damage in the pool facility and that changes in the building code would affect reconstruction of the pool . He stated that the Village would be better off tearing down the present facility and starting over . Mr . Spahn asked what the Village would get with a new pool . Mr . Seiler replied a correct size pool for swim meets and more covered area. Mr . Loffredo asked about the size of the present pool and the size of the proposed pool . Mr . Seller replied the old pool is: Tub - 40x100, structure - 140x80 feet . He said the new pool would be: Tub - 75x82, structure - 180x140 feet . Ms. Stofik asked how long renovation would take. Mr . Seller replied 8-9 months. Ms. Stofik spoke about handicapped access with regard to different options. Mr . Spahn Inquired about what the residents want, a new tub or better amenities. Mr . Varney replied that both are Inadequate. Ms. Stofik asked how long will the present facilities last . Mr . Seiler replied that repairs are overdue now and that the structure might last 3 years at most . Ms. Macdonald stated that if the Village borrows the $900,000 for a new pool it will cost $85,000 per year for 20 years to repay the loan. Mr . Kelly, from the Recreation Advisory Committee, recommended building a new pool . Mr . Henderson spoke about the article in the paper and that he was misquoted. Mr . Frank Walker spoke about pool sizes and costs, He said the Village could do bare bone renovation for much less and that he was against borrowing money for the pool . Mr . Tom Laubenthal spoke about the different options offered the Council . Mr . Spahn suggested a workshop on the pool subject . He asked for usage numbers to be presented at the workshop. Ms. Stofik stated that she was not in favor of renovation and would like to pursue the building of a new pool . Mr . Canton stated he was in favor of building a new pool . Ms. Stofik stated if the pool Is built at a different .location then the present pool can be used during construction. Mr . Lundin, from the Advisory Board on Handicapped Services, spoke about building a ramp for the handicapped . Mayor Courtney asked Ms. Macdonald to check out the cost of ramps or lifts for the handicapped . Mr . Loffredo stated that he was in favor of building a new pool If a bond Issue is used to pay for It . Mayor Courtney called for a recess a t 9: 14 pm. The meeting was reconvened at 9:27 pm. Mr . Spahn asked about Increases with regard to personnel services. Ms. Stoflk questioned the need for an assistant athletic supervisor . Mr . Varney responded. He said the position is needed for span of control . He said that without the position programs should be discontinued. Ms. Stofik stated that complaints are still coming in regarding the field house. She spoke about a small tot lot being built at some other location next year . There was discussion regarding security at the recreation facilities and allowing only residents or their guests to use them. Mr . Canton stated that he was In favor of the use of picture IDs. Mr . Varney stated he would come back to Council with the cost for Issuing picture IDs for residents. Mr . Loffredo suggested eliminating painting of the community center , basketball goals and the mower and tractor from the budget . He also suggested adding back the resurfacing of the tot lot . Mr . Canton stated that he was in favor of replacing the mower and the tractor . Mr . Spahn stated that the Council has asked to reduce the Recreation Department budget by $20,000. He said the request Is not unreasonable and that Ms. Macdonald and Mr . Varney should decide where the cuts should be made. Mayor Courtney stated that he agrees with Mr . Loffredo and that the tractor can run until it stops. Mr . Canton stated that It was ok to delay the purchase of the basketball goals and the mower but that he would like to have the community center painted. Mr . Spahn asked about the budgeted cost of gas. Ms. Varney responded and Ms. Macdonald said that the staff would call the supplier to double check the projected figures. Prospero Herrera gave a report on the Fine Arts Commissions future events. DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION Mr . Fann was excused from the meeting at this time. Mr . Spahn asked about the cost of additional lighting of downtown . He stated that it was not that Important . Mr . Canton stated that additional lighting Is for beauty and security. Mr . Loffredo stated that lighting at this juncture Is a waste of money. Ms. Barbara Witte explained that the lighting would Include 51 additional poles and security lights. Mr . Canton suggested looking at a few side streets and come back to Council with a modified recommendation . Mayor Courtney stated that the residents are also concerned with lighting on the side streets. Ms. Pat Dahne stated that the area around the theater should be considered for additional lighting . Ms. Stofik stated that the lighting contributes to the streetscape. She suggested starting In the center of downtown and doing three streets in a row. Mayor Courtney stated that Ms. Stofik's suggestion was an excellent Idea. Mr . Pierce Kelly stated that if the Council eliminates the lighting project then they don 't support the streetscape concept . Ms. Witte stated that DRB proposes a bare bones streetscape. She said that doing just the side streets would cost $12,500. Mr . Canton suggested breaking the project Into a 3 year project . He said that the Council can' t Improve business downtown but they can Improve the Infrastructure. Mayor Courtney stated that he was in favor of lighting and landscaping and that it was ok If less than the total project Is completed this year as long as the Village continues with the project later . Ms. Stofik asked If Barricade Tax funds could be used for the downtown area. Mr . Spahn stated that all of e Barricade money is committed for next year . The meeting was adjourned at 11 :07 pm. enryT ourtney Mayor Attest : Gall Macdonald la a Clerk By: Scott W. Davis Deputy Village Clerk