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09-27-1988 Barricade Workshop MeetingMIAMI SHORES VILLAGE BARRICADE WORKSHOP SEPTEMBER 27, 1988 The barricade workshop of the Miami Shores Village Council was held on Tuesday September 27, 1988, at Village Hall commencing at 7:36 with the following members present: Mayor Spero Canton Stephen Loffredo Robert S. Butler Karen Kirby Marty Stofik Also Present: Elly F. Johnson William F. Fann Mayor Canton suggested going area by area. Ms. Stofik stated that the Council has a barricade policy and the Council needs to follow it or make a new one. Mr. Loffredo agreed with Ms. Stofik but he stated that parties outside the Village have changed the rules. Dr. Butler Stated that he also agrees with Ms. Stofik. He went on to say that the Council has set certain standards but that the council has let outside Influence direct the Council. Mr. Loffredo stated that the Council needs to not talk concepts or proposals and start to make decisions. Mayor Cantos stated that as the Council comes along In a pilot program they learn things as they go along. He Went on to say that things have been changing and the Council is trying to change with it. Ms. Stofik stated that the Council needs to make decisions to move the program forward and to come up with a plan. She said the Council Is missing plans for a funding mechanism. Mr. Johnson stated that If the Council gives him a map with the barricades they want, he will get with his staff to come up with cost for the program. Ms. Kirby asked Mr. Johnson what Is the minimum specifications for the landscaping of the perminant barricades. She stated minimum landscaping could be used to cut costs. Mr. Johnson stated that would be no problem. Mr. Loffredo stated the Council should leave what they have as the Master Plan for the traffic study and discuss a funding program. Mayor Canton stated that he voted for the current plan as a comprimise and that residents habe brought In petitions for barricades In the interior of Miami Shores. He said the Council should not totally Ignore them. Dr. Butler stated that he objected to taking the decision making out of the hands of practically and puting it in the hands of residents. He went on to say that the Council is looking atgetting a professional engenering study. He said that the Council misled the residents with petitions having the residents think that the Council could do what ever they wanted. Mayor Canton stated that the Council did not mislead the residents. Ms. Stofik stated that there are answere to questions of relief of residential problems with out errecting barricades in every situation. She said the Internal barricades are the next step. Mr. Loffredo stated that he Is not opposed to Internal barricades. He said the Council has a plan to get a price on a traffic study now. He went on to say that the Council shopuld not bite off more than they can chew. Ms. Kirby stated that the Council overwhelmed Dade County with the number of barricades. She said everyone agrees that the permitter barricades are Important. Seh sais that the Council should stick with what they have now. Dr. Butler stated that the Council should not change what the council presented to the county. He said it will confuse them and the Issue. Ms. Stoflk stated that the test program was to test East of Byscane Blvd. and the South central part, establish a system to get feedback from residents, compile information on crime rates and do a traffic study on Impacted areas and hold public hearings after 6 months. During the test program the Council was to: Accept petitions from residents Add aditional barricades as funds becane available Using the information from the test employee a professional planneer and a traffic engineer Determine funding method to be used Hold a referendum whether Miami Shores should have a street closure program not a specific plan. Ms. Stoflk stated that If all the Council Is going to do is the perimiter In the next two years all the Council needs to do is decide how they will pay for it. She continued saying If the Council is going to Implement the interior barricades then they should decide where they will go at tonights meeting. Mayor Canton stated that the County representatives said Miami Shores could subtract barricades from the Master Plan but that none could be added to the plan without a new traffic study. Ms. Kirby stated she feels the current plan Is a good plan and not wattered down. Mr. Loffredo stated the Village could always have a traffic study on a limited scale later on. Dr. Butler stated that he was hesident to chalenge the power of the Dade County Commission. He said the Council should stick with a specific program. He Went on to say that the top priority Is to determine how the Council will fund the program. Ms. Stoflk stated that If the Council did a traffic study now and it it took 5 years to Implement the program, by that time the current figures would be useless and the County would request us to conduct a new traffic study. Ms. Kirby made a motion to accept the plan that was voted on last week Mayor Canton asked what ways does the Council have for funding the program. Dr. Butler replied a special taxing district. Mr. Loffredo suggested a special taxing district the same size as the village. He said it would require a vote of the village. Mayor Canton asked If there was another way to create a special taxing district other than a referendum. Mr. Johnson replied not that he knows. Dr. Butler stated that the Council must come up with a number of barricades and a cost. He said the Council must determine what the additional cost for manpower and equipment will be. Mr. Loffredo stated that 30 barricades means about 1 more man is needed. He said that he feels 3 or 4 additional people will be needed, and the cost of maintenance will be part of the special taxing district. Ms. Kirby suggested putting It on the April ballot. Dr. Butler stated that the Council should get Mr. Benton to give the councllan Idea of the cost based on a finiet number of barricades and design. He went on to say then the Council can ask the residents on the April ballot. Ms. Stofik asked how does the Council determine the number of final barricades. Ms. Kirby replied the Council should look at the number after the traffic study. Mr. Johnson stated that there are problems that the Council hasn't addressed yet. He gave the example of driving on lawns around the barricades. Mr. Johnson said the council should get detail drawings and then cost it out, then schedule another meeting 3 to 4 weeks after the specifications are determined and he will have all the answeres for them. Mr. Loffredo suggested planting hedges on the adjoining property to prevent people driving around barricades. Dr. Butler disagreed stating that it should be up to the property owner. Ms. Stofik stated that If the referndum Is only for the permiter barricades than to Imp-lement interior barricades the Council will need a second referndum. Ms. Kirby stated the council should walt until the Information comes back from the County before the Council decides. Mr. Fann stated that because the county Is our tax collector the tax for the barricades must go before the County Commission. Dr. Butler stated that until the council can get feedback from the County the council cannot decide how the referrumdum will be presented. He went on to say that the council should direct the village Manager on the design and get the cost from Mr. Benton. Ms. Stofik asked If the Council has to come up with a dollar figure to put on the ballot. Mr. Fann replied not on a legal basis, but to sell the referendum you do. Mr. Loffredo stated that Davie has done it and the Council should look at how they did It. Mr. Johnson stated that the council doesn't have have to say on the referendum that the money Is for 50 barricades but for a program village wide. Ms. Stofik stated that the council Is talking about $300,000, approxametly 1/2 mil after the cost is spread among the residents. She went on to say the Council could put It on the ballot for up to 5-6 years. Mr. Johnson stated that most taxing districts put a cap on how high the tax can go. In this way it limits furure taxes he said. Dr. Butler stated the Council can't ask residents for a blank check. He sasid property values are not going to Increase enough to offset the cap. Mr. Loffredo suggested 1/2 mill for the first 5 years and 1/10 mill after that.1 Ms. Stoflk suggested that the council go for a longer period of time to Implement barricades that come up later. She said that she agrees with Dr. Butler that the Council must have all the figures before they go to the public. Ms. Barbara Burton a Miami Shores resident stated that the Council should try to get grant money from the state such as the Safe Streets Act. Mr. Johnson stated there Is no money available from the Safe Streets Act to build barricades and that none of the expense prior to the grant can be funded with the grant money. Ms. Stoflk stated that she agrees with Ms. Burton that the council needs to get the applicaation ready so the council can get state money. Possibly next year the council can get state money to build barricades she said. Admirll condit asked If the referndum falls will the Village take out the barricades. Mr. Loffredo stated that the Council will possibly Implement barricades In Just part of the Village. Admirll Condit asked how the barricades will effect fire saftey. Ms. Kirby asked Mr. Johnson to get statisticts on how many fires Miami Shores has had In the past year. Mayor canton stated that saftey will not be comprimised. Mr. Johnson stated that a fire truck will be able to get arround tempory barricades and over perminant barricades. Dr. Butler stated that the Council must make provisions for turn arounds so cars will not be turning around on residents lawns. Mr. Loffredo stated that it will make the program more expensive. Dr. Butler replied that he agrees that It will but that It will be a big expense but people will still need the turn around to turn around in and come back out. Mayor Canton stated that barricades will make cars that done belong stand out. Dr. Butler stated that even with signs people drive to the end of the block and turn around. Mr. Johnson stated that the workshop for the direction of the Country Club scheduled for the 6th of October should be changed to another date. The date was changed to October 27th at 7:30. The meeting was adjourned at 9:21. ATTEST: Elly F- Johnson BY: Scott W. Davis Deputy Village Clerk ero C-- on Mayor